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« on: 20 February 2011, 15:21 »

This what he said when a man ask if he is a Trojan Horse @ WMC2011 in public:
"The obvious answer is no. We made sure that the entire management team was involved in the process, and of course the board of directors of Nokia are the only ones that can make this significant of a decision about Nokia. They made that final decision on Thursday night."


Ques 1) If this decision is made on Thursday night, why he tries to leak his notorious memo, "Our platform is burning" days before that. What if the board deny him? - Lie
Ques 2) If this decision is made on Thursday night, why Nokia begins to make WP7 phone earlier than the date. What if the board deny him? - Lie
Ques 3) As a CEO of the biggest phone manufacture for only 4 months, he sold/abolish Nokia's billions of dollors of investment, including OS/map/OVI with whatsoever reasons. As repay, Nokia get what Samsang, HTC all can get. -Fair?
Ques 4) What ever Moto,SE,Samsung or HTC, there is not a company we ally with one to target one else - This is not business.
Ques 5) Can't understand why until now, Mr Elop remembers he has the stocks of MS and recogonize to sell it ASAP.
Ques 6) What Elop called "industry eco-system" has now changed to wp7 eco-system soon by himself.

What he did is try to diminish what Nokia has now and thus force Nokia to make wp7 phone. The longer the less chance for Nokia to fightback.


The ironical fact is "we will sell another 150 million symbian phones" vs Symbian got cancer. - A stupid CEO?

If you still have questions about it, ref this:
"Thinking in M-N ally: Logic behind":
http://forum.dailymobile.net/index.php?topic=42352.0
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« Reply #1 on: 20 February 2011, 15:23 »

Some other than this idea:
1 "Android is also a choice for Nokia before Elop release its "Burning Platform""
--- Yes, But Nokia begins to make WP7 phone before 20110211 which can be seen on WMC2011. That means everything is already before 20110211.

2 "We can't comment internal communications on Elop's Burnning Platform""
--- So many internal comments, why this is leaked? Mr ELop should know how serious this means to his company - Nokia. This means everything is ready before 20110211.
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« Reply #2 on: 20 February 2011, 21:15 »

Oh for the love of God, give it a rest.

If MeeGo was anything like the buggy mess Intel showed at MWC then Elop made the right call.  Sure, Elop handled the communication badly, but that doesn't mean he's an insider.

Will it work?  Don't know.

Will MS take over Nokia?  Don't know.

Who is to blame for all this?  Nokia's previous senior team. 

Dry your eyes and move on.
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« Reply #3 on: 20 February 2011, 22:45 »

Oh for the love of God, give it a rest.

If MeeGo was anything like the buggy mess Intel showed at MWC then Elop made the right call.  Sure, Elop handled the communication badly, but that doesn't mean he's an insider.

Will it work?  Don't know.

Will MS take over Nokia?  Don't know.

Who is to blame for all this?  Nokia's previous senior team. 

Dry your eyes and move on.

 +1. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: 23 February 2011, 01:22 »

Oh for the love of God, give it a rest.

If MeeGo was anything like the buggy mess Intel showed at MWC then Elop made the right call.  Sure, Elop handled the communication badly, but that doesn't mean he's an insider.

Will it work?  Don't know.

Will MS take over Nokia?  Don't know.

Who is to blame for all this?  Nokia's previous senior team. 

Dry your eyes and move on.


I agree. I think some people's reactions are way more than what's necessary. Let's give Nokia a chance to prove their point and their decision of taking this step and we'll see how it goes
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« Reply #5 on: 23 February 2011, 03:05 »


Oh for the love of God, give it a rest.

If MeeGo was anything like the buggy mess Intel showed at MWC then Elop made the right call.  Sure, Elop handled the communication badly, but that doesn't mean he's an insider.

Will it work?  Don't know.

Will MS take over Nokia?  Don't know.

Who is to blame for all this?  Nokia's previous senior team. 

Dry your eyes and move on.


+1

I agree. I think some people's reactions are way more than what's necessary. Let's give Nokia a chance to prove their point and their decision of taking this step and we'll see how it goes


I agree, give them a chance!
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« Reply #6 on: 25 February 2011, 17:35 »

Oh for the love of God, give it a rest.

If MeeGo was anything like the buggy mess Intel showed at MWC then Elop made the right call.  Sure, Elop handled the communication badly, but that doesn't mean he's an insider.

Will it work?  Don't know.

Will MS take over Nokia?  Don't know.

Who is to blame for all this?  Nokia's previous senior team.  

Dry your eyes and move on.


==========
Meego VS WP7
==========================
There will be ONLY one Meego device in 2011(According to Elop why he will cancel Meego phone.)
But Nokia's WP7 only comes on 2012.
Conclusion: Meego is faster than WP7(Let along there is a very great N900)


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Symbian VS WP7
==========================
WP7 will have copy/past, multi-thread at the middle of 2011 - Symbian already has.
WP7 will have HTML5 with HW accelerate Browser at the end of 2011 - Symbian is plan to have it too.
Conclusion: Symbian is as faster as WP7


When Nokia discard all it's investment to get 20% market share(already a remarkable number) for WP7. That is extremely great for MS. But for Nokia? Not a normal CEO will do it like this except a Trojan Horse who wants Nokia to lost his ability of independency ASAP.

Let alone Nokia still has the biggest market share with its own OS and some many dramatic changes on Symbian^3 and QT.

People hates Nokia because it has glory history but lags now. But people never miss HTC if it is closed, because they just like Android. But this is taken advantaged by the CEO which makes Nokia never has a chance to be independent. MS even can bear the fail on wp7, but not nokia, this is the expense of losing independence.

IS THIS THE CONCEPT OF PARTNERSHIP. Every partner keeps its independency for protecting self's interest. - NO, NOKIA is conquered but with respect for the current position in mobile world and the weakness of WP7

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« Reply #7 on: 27 February 2011, 01:21 »

Which part of 'move on' are you struggling with?
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« Reply #8 on: 27 February 2011, 17:29 »

Which part of 'move on' are you struggling with?

Thinking in M-N ally: LOGIC behind(2)
http://forum.dailymobile.net/index.php?topic=42352.0
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« Reply #9 on: 27 February 2011, 17:54 »

If Elop separates the mobile division from Nokia, then we can say that Elop is trojan horse. Before that we can not really say anything but if that does happen, then it is really the end of Nokia as we know it.
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« Reply #10 on: 10 March 2011, 17:11 »

@qwasd

Elop has sold all Nokia's assert which distinguishes Nokia with HTC.

Even Elop also has to say Nokia's "differential" in WP7  - Is it possible? No. Years later, Nokia has to obey every thing MS wants.

Does it matter if "Elop separates the mobile division from Nokia" - No. Also MS will never acquires Nokia.
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the time has come


« Reply #11 on: 12 March 2011, 19:04 »

is wp7 better than symbian? How, explain?
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« Reply #12 on: 23 March 2011, 17:15 »

is wp7 better than symbian? How, explain?

if you have seen this and its subsequent reply.
http://forum.dailymobile.net/index.php?topic=42352.0

Elop is taking advantage the current negative situation of Symbian and over exaggerate it.



I means, Elop is a "Trojan Horse" , this horse is not possible:
1) Returns to MS after Nokia - Laws prevent.
2) Sold Nokia to MS - MS need not it.
But what he does is already worthy a payback from MS and, the God.

Elop, can you sleep at night? Your platform, WP7 is actually burning. MS is like a stupid elephant which copy the growth path of Android.

Windows PC, windows notebook, windows PAD(at least my choice), windows phone? Boring? I am not a loyalty slave.
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« Reply #13 on: 23 March 2011, 17:33 »

Symbian VS WP7
==========================
WP7 will have copy/past, multi-thread at the middle of 2011 - Symbian already has.
WP7 will have HTML5 with HW accelerate Browser at the end of 2011 - Symbian is plan to have it too.
Conclusion: Symbian is as faster as WP7

Wp7 is relatively a very new  and fresh os and it needs about 1 year to make it fully functional
android was a piece of shit in 1.5 and 1.6 and from 2.1 it got some maturity
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