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« on: 05 October 2010, 09:21 »

guyz please b serious and advice me is it good to buy Nokia N8. bcoz rt now im using N97 and so f***d up that i desprtly want to shift to another Nokia phone. what worries me is that i may face trble and shame i faced when i bought N97. So please reply to me. does it have thos faults that wer there in N97. is it a really good multi tasking phone. also what is the phone memory of N8 i.e. C Drive. i heard its 2GB. please answer me.
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« Reply #1 on: 05 October 2010, 09:31 »

guyz please b serious and advice me is it good to buy Nokia N8. bcoz rt now im using N97 and so f***d up that i desprtly want to shift to another Nokia phone. what worries me is that i may face trble and shame i faced when i bought N97. So please reply to me. does it have thos faults that wer there in N97. is it a really good multi tasking phone. also what is the phone memory of N8 i.e. C Drive. i heard its 2GB. please answer me.


phone just released, what u expect there's any good advice out there??
If you looking for a camera phone the N8 would be your best bet, but for overall performance I think it would be wise for you to wait a bit longer then goes through all those users group before make up your mind...

multitasking - from current video demo it should be fine
C: drive - ~130Mb for user usage
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« Reply #2 on: 05 October 2010, 09:51 »

Few reasons why to update. Wink

N8 (and Symbian^3) vs N97 (and Symbian^1):
+ AMOLED screen with Gorilla Glass
+ +57% faster CPU (434Mhz vs 680MHz)
+ Dedicated CPU (GPU) processor for graphics
+ Capasitive multitouch
+ USB OnTheGo (connect Usb mouse, -keyboard, -HDD or any other device)
+ HDMI and HD recording
+ Two microphones for stereo recording
+ Dolby Digital+ audio output via HDMI
+ Twice as much memory, 128MB vs 256MB
+ Supports 32 GB MMC
+ Contains camera with the biggest sensor cell EVER put into a phone
+ Xenon-flash instead of LED flash
+ Symbian^3 offers totally over 250 new features compared to Symbian^1
+ New camera application, including lot of new features
+ WLAN IEEE 802.11 b/g/n and support for WAPI
+ Flawless XViD/DivX/MKV (H.264/AVC) video support
+ New Homescreen containing up to 18 Widgets
+ New kind of haptic (vibrating) effects
+ Kinetic scrolling fully supported
+ Pinch-zoom where it's needed (EMail, Pictures, Browser, Maps (Beta) and Camera)
+ No more double click, but instead longpress and small menu
+ No longer annoying popups and less queries (only once or so)
+ More consistent and easier to use Phone Settings
+ Tips! Phones gives you hints every now and then about the application (can be disabled, don't worry)
+ New Maps with pinch-zoom and hardware accelerated graphics
+ New Ovi Store -application and option to pay with your phone bill (instead of credit card etc.)
+ Bluetooth 3.0 support
+ New Multitask view, which works like Aero Peek in Windows 7
+ Timed profiles
+ New EMail software
+ Feature to Map Network Drive
+ Support for multiple calendar, not just one
+ New Video Editor and Picture Editor applications with all the new features
+ New Ovi Music -application
+ Ovi Music Unlimited with unlimited amount of DRM free music
+ New Web browser engine and with Flash 10 support
+ WebTV applications (like National Geography) playing videos via WLAN/3G
+ New Communities client (Facebook, Twitter etc) to update presence, upload pictures/videos and share location to Facebook, Twitter etc.
+ ... And synchronize your Facebook events with your calendar
+ New Phonebook with pictures and synchronizing person with Facebook etc.
+ New Conversations for showing SMS in speech bubbles and with smiles Smiley Wink Cheesy
+ Homescreen can have Widgets for Notifications, Facebook/Twitter, WebTV and all the Symbian^1 widgets still work
+ Most of the old widgets have been updated, like Favorite Contacts can have more than four persons
+ New Powersaving mode for maximum battery life
+ Longer video playback and 3G call times
+ New themes and icons (via Software Update application)
+ For developers: Qt-, Python- and Java Runtime 2.1 for Symbian developing environments
+ ... more


Deleting file example:

Symbian^1 (N97):
1. Click! (Select a file)
2. Click! (Open Options)
3. Click! (Select Edit...)
4. Click! (Select Delete)

Symbian^3 (N8):
1. Cliiiiiiiiick! (Open popup menu by long press on file)
2. Click! (Select Delete)

Nokia has been busy for sure!
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« Reply #3 on: 05 October 2010, 10:20 »

Deleting file example:

Symbian^1 (N97):
1. Click! (Select a file)
2. Click! (Open Options)
3. Click! (Select Edit...)
4. Click! (Select Delete)


step 3 doesnt need to be...there is no edit feature to go to delete...its just find file, click options delete....only one more than N8....or is this one of the changes between the N97 and 5800? cos I just checked it myself on my 5800...on 3 steps lol
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« Reply #4 on: 05 October 2010, 10:29 »

+ Supports 32 GB MMC
+ New Ovi Store -application and option to pay with your phone bill (instead of credit card etc.)
+ Ovi Music Unlimited with unlimited amount of DRM free music

All are on N97 too, and I don't think you get OMU for free when you buy N8, it would be advertised all over if it where the case.
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« Reply #5 on: 05 October 2010, 10:34 »

Ah, sorry about that "Edit...", but it goes like that in some place (Phonebook, Calendar?). But it DOES apply if you try to copy the file.

And if you can live with 8MPix camera and without HDMI, then I'd go for C7 since I like the sleek design much better. C7 is also very thin, only 10.5 mm (vs iPhone 3GS is 12.3 mm). It also comes with cheaper price tag.




+ Supports 32 GB MMC
+ New Ovi Store -application and option to pay with your phone bill (instead of credit card etc.)
+ Ovi Music Unlimited with unlimited amount of DRM free music

All are on N97 too, and I don't think you get OMU for free when you buy N8, it would be advertised all over if it where the case.


- N97 only supports 16GB MMC
- Ovi Store 2.0 (written in Qt) won't be updated for Symbian^1
- I didn't say OMU is free, but N8 is the first device to have it

Source: http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/Comparison.xhtml?dev=N97
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« Reply #6 on: 05 October 2010, 12:14 »

very impressive advice
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« Reply #7 on: 05 October 2010, 14:54 »

By experience,my frnd is using 32gb mem card in his n97,am using 16gb
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« Reply #8 on: 05 October 2010, 15:32 »

By experience,my frnd is using 32gb mem card in his n97,am using 16gb


I was copying the details from Forum Nokia, maybe the comparison is not up to date if 32GB cards work with N97.

is it a really good multi tasking phone. also what is the phone memory of N8 i.e. C Drive. i heard its 2GB. please answer me.


C space is not important, since you can also use internal mass storage. Though free C drive space is still bigger (75MB vs 256MB), but  more important is the actual RAM; N97 has 128MB and N8 has 256MB. It might not sound a big chance, but if you think about the free memory (for apps), it's a big change.

N97 free RAM: 128MB - 78MB = 50MB
N8 free RAM: 256MB - 123MB = 135MB

That's +170% free memory space for (open) apps.

And there is also new multitasking view, which works a bit like Aero Peek.


Symbian^3 multitasking view.


Symbian^1 multitasking view.
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« Reply #9 on: 05 October 2010, 15:45 »

Very nice but the thing that i don't like is that N8 has the same UI with all previous Nokia phones, same icons, same messaging etc. Could they, at least , pick one decent theme and make it default, because the default theme sucks and the icons and the menu are the same since i had a Nokia 6680 five years ago. Also the external design of the phone is not that good, cheaper phones like C7 or C6-01 are more attractive.
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« Reply #10 on: 05 October 2010, 15:48 »

yes very good advice. Ive also read that symbian^3 is ram friendly and doesnt use alot of ram. So it wont be easy to use all the ram.
Question: does apps like handy taskaman work with the n8?
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« Reply #11 on: 05 October 2010, 16:07 »

yes very good advice. Ive also read that symbian^3 is ram friendly and doesnt use alot of ram. So it wont be easy to use all the ram.
Question: does apps like handy taskaman work with the n8?


S^3 is very light, compared to Android (Java) for example and yet it has very good security. I think somebody broke the record by running over ~50 apps at the same time in some Symbian device. Smiley


Very nice but the thing that i don't like is that N8 has the same UI with all previous Nokia phones, same icons, same messaging etc. Could they, at least , pick one decent theme and make it default, because the default theme sucks and the icons and the menu are the same since i had a Nokia 6680 five years ago. Also the external design of the phone is not that good, cheaper phones like C7 or C6-01 are more attractive.



Icons HAVE changed, if you just download the new theme from Software Update application. Default themes though come with cool animated background.


Office tools.


Multitasking view.


Same messaging you say? It comes with Conversations, that show speech bubbles and smileys.

And the thing that you don't see, is the speed of UI transactions and all new fancy theme effects.
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« Reply #12 on: 05 October 2010, 16:33 »




Hi. I am also thinking of getting myself the new N8.

One question: Can it display the application names as text under those shortcuts? I think it could be very confusing without such feature, at least for me as I would be constantly changing the themes, so I couldn't tell what application the new icons present.
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« Reply #13 on: 05 October 2010, 16:44 »




Icons HAVE changed, if you just download the new theme from Software Update application. Default themes though come with cool animated background.





Dude this sucks, very outdated, my 5800 with BoB by IND190 theme is much better.




Same messaging you say? It comes with Conversations, that show speech bubbles and smileys.


Conversations are also present in older model, nothing new.
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« Reply #14 on: 05 October 2010, 19:00 »

Dude this sucks, very outdated, my 5800 with BoB by IND190 theme is much better.


The real eye candy comes from the smoothes, transaction animations and new details.

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Conversations are also present in older model, nothing new.


Not like this. It's wasn't fully integrated and polished like the one in Beta Labs.


Hi. I am also thinking of getting myself the new N8.

One question: Can it display the application names as text under those shortcuts? I think it could be very confusing without such feature, at least for me as I would be constantly changing the themes, so I couldn't tell what application the new icons present.


Usually they show names when you open application grid, but I just wanted to show the new icons really.
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